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	<title>Comments on: OFF: Who is the Greatest Tennis Player of this Decade?</title>
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		<title>By: Aaress</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17828</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, just wanted to clarify my meaning. When I said decade, I was meaning to infer the past ten years, not the years 2000-2010. Sorry if that confused anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, just wanted to clarify my meaning. When I said decade, I was meaning to infer the past ten years, not the years 2000-2010. Sorry if that confused anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaress</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17820</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 02:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope Wilson, I never dreamed Serena would win the AO, especially after she lost to Sybille Bammer in Hobart. 

Part of being great is the ability to win when everyone expects you to fall on your face. Serena has an uncanny ability to win when it matters the most. She won the Australian Open when everyone expected her to lose in the first week. She won the Sony Ericsson Open when people didn't believe she could back up the win. I'm not saying Serena could have won Roland Garros, because clearly Justine was the better woman that day in the quarters, but she had absolutely nothing to lose by losing that match. 

You lose to a player outside of the top 100 and your reputation takes a hit. You lose in straight sets to the number one in the world who has not lost a set at that tournament in two years and you can still go, "wow, I still won seven games!" She has won Roland Garros in the past and even though it would have been great to see her go for the Grand Slam, I don't think she would have done it. The depth on Tour is too great and I don't believe she would have been injury-free long enough to accomplish it. 

Frankly I agree with Wilson, it does not really matter whether Serena plays five tournaments or fifteen a year when it comes to her greatness. A player's win-and-loss ratio does not take into account how many tournaments they pulled out of. Fifty years from now, we won't be throwing around exception clauses when discussing Serena about how she pulled out of this tournament and that tournament. All that will matter is what she won and how she won. 

Like Alsacienne said earlier, another variable is determining what is better - genius or hard work? I think Serena has both on her side. One thing you have to admit is that when she does work, she works &lt;em&gt;hard&lt;/em&gt;. 

Did any of you get a good look at her during RG - she's lost more weight, put on more muscle, and clearly has been working hard to recommit herself to the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope Wilson, I never dreamed Serena would win the AO, especially after she lost to Sybille Bammer in Hobart. </p>
<p>Part of being great is the ability to win when everyone expects you to fall on your face. Serena has an uncanny ability to win when it matters the most. She won the Australian Open when everyone expected her to lose in the first week. She won the Sony Ericsson Open when people didn&#8217;t believe she could back up the win. I&#8217;m not saying Serena could have won Roland Garros, because clearly Justine was the better woman that day in the quarters, but she had absolutely nothing to lose by losing that match. </p>
<p>You lose to a player outside of the top 100 and your reputation takes a hit. You lose in straight sets to the number one in the world who has not lost a set at that tournament in two years and you can still go, &#8220;wow, I still won seven games!&#8221; She has won Roland Garros in the past and even though it would have been great to see her go for the Grand Slam, I don&#8217;t think she would have done it. The depth on Tour is too great and I don&#8217;t believe she would have been injury-free long enough to accomplish it. </p>
<p>Frankly I agree with Wilson, it does not really matter whether Serena plays five tournaments or fifteen a year when it comes to her greatness. A player&#8217;s win-and-loss ratio does not take into account how many tournaments they pulled out of. Fifty years from now, we won&#8217;t be throwing around exception clauses when discussing Serena about how she pulled out of this tournament and that tournament. All that will matter is what she won and how she won. </p>
<p>Like Alsacienne said earlier, another variable is determining what is better - genius or hard work? I think Serena has both on her side. One thing you have to admit is that when she does work, she works <em>hard</em>. </p>
<p>Did any of you get a good look at her during RG - she&#8217;s lost more weight, put on more muscle, and clearly has been working hard to recommit herself to the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson Spaulding</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17813</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 00:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17813</guid>
		<description>We don't have to wait until the end of the decade.  We have the here and now.  Aaress set the criteria: winning a major.  Kurt hit the nail squarely on the head.  But ladies and gentlemen what might have been and what could be does not compute in conferring this "title" (there is no mandatory number of tournaments a player must take part in, nor should there be).  The record is clear and inarguable.  Between Serena and Justine, Williams has more Grand Slams.  The head to head record knocks Henin out of the running.  

Sure, it would have been nice for Serena to play with greater frequency.  But her lack of play doesn't diminsh her status, rather it makes her triumphs all the more remarkable.  How can an athlete be away from the game for so long and still be such a fearsome competitor?!  Ask Serena. 

Cast your mind back to January of this year and then ask yourself in all candor: did anyone imagine for an instant that Serena would stage such an astounding comeback at the Australian Open and then a bit later in Miami?  No one can dispute that Justine is well nigh invincible on clay.  But on other surfaces she is clearly beatable (check out her record against Venus on all surfaces-very enlightening).  No folks,  Serena has won the big ones on all surfaces.  And that fact truly upholds her standing.  Serena Williams: Greatest Player Of The Decade (until further notice).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have to wait until the end of the decade.  We have the here and now.  Aaress set the criteria: winning a major.  Kurt hit the nail squarely on the head.  But ladies and gentlemen what might have been and what could be does not compute in conferring this &#8220;title&#8221; (there is no mandatory number of tournaments a player must take part in, nor should there be).  The record is clear and inarguable.  Between Serena and Justine, Williams has more Grand Slams.  The head to head record knocks Henin out of the running.  </p>
<p>Sure, it would have been nice for Serena to play with greater frequency.  But her lack of play doesn&#8217;t diminsh her status, rather it makes her triumphs all the more remarkable.  How can an athlete be away from the game for so long and still be such a fearsome competitor?!  Ask Serena. </p>
<p>Cast your mind back to January of this year and then ask yourself in all candor: did anyone imagine for an instant that Serena would stage such an astounding comeback at the Australian Open and then a bit later in Miami?  No one can dispute that Justine is well nigh invincible on clay.  But on other surfaces she is clearly beatable (check out her record against Venus on all surfaces-very enlightening).  No folks,  Serena has won the big ones on all surfaces.  And that fact truly upholds her standing.  Serena Williams: Greatest Player Of The Decade (until further notice).</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17802</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not Serena...people keep on saying Serena...like I pointed out, the decade is not over yet, right now Serena has 8 Grand Slams, but Justine is chasing up to her.

It'll come down to who has the most Grand Slams and single titles at the end of 2010.

Serena is definitely not going to be the greatest if she keeps on playing four or five tournaments a  year and winning one a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not Serena&#8230;people keep on saying Serena&#8230;like I pointed out, the decade is not over yet, right now Serena has 8 Grand Slams, but Justine is chasing up to her.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll come down to who has the most Grand Slams and single titles at the end of 2010.</p>
<p>Serena is definitely not going to be the greatest if she keeps on playing four or five tournaments a  year and winning one a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Alsacienne</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17749</link>
		<dc:creator>Alsacienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 03:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17749</guid>
		<description>Hi all,

I agree that it's between Juju and Serena and agree with everything said above, but would like to add another angle. What counts more, genius or hard work? 

Justine surely is the hardest worker out there, relentlessly driving herself and giving up everything to tennis. Serena, however, is the most talented I'd say, pulling amazing matches out of nowhere. So can we think of Juju getting any better than she is? I don't see it - no doubt she is the best clay courter of the decade, but I don't see her progressing on hard. Serena, however, could outdo everyone on every surface if she's get her act and dedication together.

In the end I'm really torn - Serena would be my winner but I can't approve that waste of talent. With Serena there'd always be "what ifs", with Juju not.

Oh, and Amelie: she's over the hill, guys. I hope she'll finally stay healthy and be able to play another good season next year and win a few more titles, but that's it. Even her coach seems to be pretty convinced of that, and that is pretty strong I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s between Juju and Serena and agree with everything said above, but would like to add another angle. What counts more, genius or hard work? </p>
<p>Justine surely is the hardest worker out there, relentlessly driving herself and giving up everything to tennis. Serena, however, is the most talented I&#8217;d say, pulling amazing matches out of nowhere. So can we think of Juju getting any better than she is? I don&#8217;t see it - no doubt she is the best clay courter of the decade, but I don&#8217;t see her progressing on hard. Serena, however, could outdo everyone on every surface if she&#8217;s get her act and dedication together.</p>
<p>In the end I&#8217;m really torn - Serena would be my winner but I can&#8217;t approve that waste of talent. With Serena there&#8217;d always be &#8220;what ifs&#8221;, with Juju not.</p>
<p>Oh, and Amelie: she&#8217;s over the hill, guys. I hope she&#8217;ll finally stay healthy and be able to play another good season next year and win a few more titles, but that&#8217;s it. Even her coach seems to be pretty convinced of that, and that is pretty strong I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17746</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 00:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17746</guid>
		<description>Serena, duh. I don't see any arguments for any other player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serena, duh. I don&#8217;t see any arguments for any other player.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaress</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17723</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick and Kurt, great points. 

Kurt, you raised a lot of valid questions about Serena and her lack of dedication. Obviously, no one really know how great she could have been at this stage in her career, or even like Nick said, what Justine could have accomplished as well if she'd play more events. 

Nick, Amelie and Maria could level with the duo, but personally, I don't see Maria or especially Amelie overtaking them. 

For one thing, like all of that generation (not counting Sharapova), they only have a few more good years left - if that many. Amelie's still trying to make up for lost time and she'll be hard pressed to catch up to Serena with eight Grand Slams. Like Petrova, she's not very consistent and still struggles with expectations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick and Kurt, great points. </p>
<p>Kurt, you raised a lot of valid questions about Serena and her lack of dedication. Obviously, no one really know how great she could have been at this stage in her career, or even like Nick said, what Justine could have accomplished as well if she&#8217;d play more events. </p>
<p>Nick, Amelie and Maria could level with the duo, but personally, I don&#8217;t see Maria or especially Amelie overtaking them. </p>
<p>For one thing, like all of that generation (not counting Sharapova), they only have a few more good years left - if that many. Amelie&#8217;s still trying to make up for lost time and she&#8217;ll be hard pressed to catch up to Serena with eight Grand Slams. Like Petrova, she&#8217;s not very consistent and still struggles with expectations.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17721</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serena has over three more years to gather herself up to become the greatest female tennis player of this decade.

If Serena and Justine play more matches, it would be a great rivalry like Martina and Chris in the 80s...but Serena plays little and Justine chooses her tournaments...

Anything could happen in 3 years span, who knows, Justine might overtake Serena with the Grand Slam total, or Maria and Amelie could win more to level with these two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serena has over three more years to gather herself up to become the greatest female tennis player of this decade.</p>
<p>If Serena and Justine play more matches, it would be a great rivalry like Martina and Chris in the 80s&#8230;but Serena plays little and Justine chooses her tournaments&#8230;</p>
<p>Anything could happen in 3 years span, who knows, Justine might overtake Serena with the Grand Slam total, or Maria and Amelie could win more to level with these two.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17719</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd agree that it's between Justine and Serena.  However, I'd also say that it's pretty clear Serena is the greatest player of this decade.  She's 8-2 in Grand Slam finals (to Justine's 6-4) and owns a 6-4 H2H against Henin.  Not only that, but she has made the finals of the singles, doubles, and mixed at every Grand Slam and is two mixed championships (Australian and French) from completing a career boxed set.

The interesting thing, in my opinion, is that we'd see an even greater dominance between the two if Serena completely committed to playing a full schedule and shifted all her focus on maximizing her tennis.  She's really hurt her place in history by becoming distracted in other interests.  I also think it's noteworthy that Justine's era of dominance came on the heels of Serena's, when her sister's death and nagging injuries set in.

I don't know how coherent all that was, but I honestly believe Serena is the best female tennis player of this decade.  When she shows up, she's proven that she's always a threat.  Should she continue her current form and play a full schedule (though her definition of such is  just a dozen tournaments a year), I think she'll add a handful more Grand Slams to her total and hopefully reclaim her place as the true World No. 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d agree that it&#8217;s between Justine and Serena.  However, I&#8217;d also say that it&#8217;s pretty clear Serena is the greatest player of this decade.  She&#8217;s 8-2 in Grand Slam finals (to Justine&#8217;s 6-4) and owns a 6-4 H2H against Henin.  Not only that, but she has made the finals of the singles, doubles, and mixed at every Grand Slam and is two mixed championships (Australian and French) from completing a career boxed set.</p>
<p>The interesting thing, in my opinion, is that we&#8217;d see an even greater dominance between the two if Serena completely committed to playing a full schedule and shifted all her focus on maximizing her tennis.  She&#8217;s really hurt her place in history by becoming distracted in other interests.  I also think it&#8217;s noteworthy that Justine&#8217;s era of dominance came on the heels of Serena&#8217;s, when her sister&#8217;s death and nagging injuries set in.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how coherent all that was, but I honestly believe Serena is the best female tennis player of this decade.  When she shows up, she&#8217;s proven that she&#8217;s always a threat.  Should she continue her current form and play a full schedule (though her definition of such is  just a dozen tournaments a year), I think she&#8217;ll add a handful more Grand Slams to her total and hopefully reclaim her place as the true World No. 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2007/06/15/off-who-is-the-greatest-tennis-player-of-this-decade/#comment-17712</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since the decade is not over, I think we're still stuck with Justine Henin and Serena Williams.

Three more years to go and we'll have the winners based on Total amount of career titles and Grand Slams.

Right now it's even, Justine has more career titles while Serena edges Justine on Grand Slam with two more.

And also the head-to-head...6-4 to Serena.

So Serena has the edge, 2-1 right now, but it's close really close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since the decade is not over, I think we&#8217;re still stuck with Justine Henin and Serena Williams.</p>
<p>Three more years to go and we&#8217;ll have the winners based on Total amount of career titles and Grand Slams.</p>
<p>Right now it&#8217;s even, Justine has more career titles while Serena edges Justine on Grand Slam with two more.</p>
<p>And also the head-to-head&#8230;6-4 to Serena.</p>
<p>So Serena has the edge, 2-1 right now, but it&#8217;s close really close.</p>
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