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		<title>By: Aaress Lawless</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2008/10/15/the-most-frustrating-players-in-womens-tennis/comment-page-1/#comment-30725</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaress Lawless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Alice, for the clarification!</description>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2008/10/15/the-most-frustrating-players-in-womens-tennis/comment-page-1/#comment-30691</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS. Churchill and Bartoli.. I like that :)</description>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That’s a very fair analysis Aaress. I think partly it’s that very enigmatic individualistic quality which draws some people to Marion. The loner outsider thing also. 

Just to clarify. When I wrote that it goes it with the territory of being French, what I meant was that the French fans and French people at large have a reputation for being quite fickle and unforgiving of their own hero’s (Marion in particular). I wasn’t saying that the international  tennis audience are against the French. Of course not. Sorry for the initial lack of clarity on my part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s a very fair analysis Aaress. I think partly it’s that very enigmatic individualistic quality which draws some people to Marion. The loner outsider thing also. </p>
<p>Just to clarify. When I wrote that it goes it with the territory of being French, what I meant was that the French fans and French people at large have a reputation for being quite fickle and unforgiving of their own hero’s (Marion in particular). I wasn’t saying that the international  tennis audience are against the French. Of course not. Sorry for the initial lack of clarity on my part.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaress Lawless</title>
		<link>http://www.onthebaseline.com/2008/10/15/the-most-frustrating-players-in-womens-tennis/comment-page-1/#comment-30626</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaress Lawless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent thoughts, everyone!

Vlado, Ana Ivanovic can be extremely frustrating. But I do believe the proverbial jury is still out on her future. Personally, I&#039;m not terribly concerned about her slump. I think this was just a classic case of too much, too soon for a young inexperienced player. Two Grand Slam finals and the Roland Garros trophy is a pretty good haul for one season.

Jim, thanks for the links on your websites! I really appreciate your support of OTB. Yes, I thought about including Maria Kirilenko, but this year I&#039;ve been fairly impressed by her results. 

Andrew, sorry about the unicode! We&#039;re using the WordPress blogging platform and for some reason, it did not recognize your comment. 

Nick, I&#039;m glad you liked the post! Tamira Paszek&#039;s ranking has swung like a pendulum this season, and although I still think she has a lot of potential, she needs to work on being consistent. 

Alice, to borrow a phrase from the great Winston Churchill, Marion Bartoli and her father are very similar to &quot;a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.&quot; They are a perplexing duo, and many fans and those in the tennis community find it difficult to understand them. 

I&#039;m not even going to attempt to analyze why that is, except to say that Marion is a staunch individualist. Part of that could be a good thing, because after all, tennis is an individualistic sport. She has a closely drawn circle, not unlike the Sharapova Camp, yet I do wonder if Marion could stand to benefit from supplemental assistance. Perhaps someone can cite an example, but off the top of my head, I can&#039;t think of a truly successful champion who reached the top of the sport without at least using the assistance of someone outside their family. Even Venus and Serena, as loyal as they are to their parents, often seek advice from other avenues, for example Nick Bollettieri. 

But I don&#039;t think Marion&#039;s image problem is because she is French. After all, Amelie Mauresmo, Tatiana Golovin, and Mary Pierce to name a few have not come under fire because of their nationality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent thoughts, everyone!</p>
<p>Vlado, Ana Ivanovic can be extremely frustrating. But I do believe the proverbial jury is still out on her future. Personally, I&#8217;m not terribly concerned about her slump. I think this was just a classic case of too much, too soon for a young inexperienced player. Two Grand Slam finals and the Roland Garros trophy is a pretty good haul for one season.</p>
<p>Jim, thanks for the links on your websites! I really appreciate your support of OTB. Yes, I thought about including Maria Kirilenko, but this year I&#8217;ve been fairly impressed by her results. </p>
<p>Andrew, sorry about the unicode! We&#8217;re using the WordPress blogging platform and for some reason, it did not recognize your comment. </p>
<p>Nick, I&#8217;m glad you liked the post! Tamira Paszek&#8217;s ranking has swung like a pendulum this season, and although I still think she has a lot of potential, she needs to work on being consistent. </p>
<p>Alice, to borrow a phrase from the great Winston Churchill, Marion Bartoli and her father are very similar to &#8220;a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.&#8221; They are a perplexing duo, and many fans and those in the tennis community find it difficult to understand them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even going to attempt to analyze why that is, except to say that Marion is a staunch individualist. Part of that could be a good thing, because after all, tennis is an individualistic sport. She has a closely drawn circle, not unlike the Sharapova Camp, yet I do wonder if Marion could stand to benefit from supplemental assistance. Perhaps someone can cite an example, but off the top of my head, I can&#8217;t think of a truly successful champion who reached the top of the sport without at least using the assistance of someone outside their family. Even Venus and Serena, as loyal as they are to their parents, often seek advice from other avenues, for example Nick Bollettieri. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think Marion&#8217;s image problem is because she is French. After all, Amelie Mauresmo, Tatiana Golovin, and Mary Pierce to name a few have not come under fire because of their nationality.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaress

Sorry, I saw  this very interesting post several days ago but only got a chance to reply tonight.

Its public recognition of sorts that Marion has moved from being totally invisible to totally frustrating. And progress that some now recognise that on a good day Marion can beat anyone. A year or two ago many would have found that statement laughable. I take your points on board Aaress and know they come from a good place.

Marion deserves support but is all too often met with venomous criticism and rejection. In part it goes with the territory of being French, and in part with the vicissitudes of being a professional tennis player.

There are many who profess to be fans yet become rather equivocal in their support when push comes to shove. With friends like these.....

Look at the way she held her shoulders in shame following the Stanford final. Yet Marion had NOTHING to feel ashamed about in my opinion. 

As a fan, I may feel frustration FOR her, but not frustration BECAUSE OF her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaress</p>
<p>Sorry, I saw  this very interesting post several days ago but only got a chance to reply tonight.</p>
<p>Its public recognition of sorts that Marion has moved from being totally invisible to totally frustrating. And progress that some now recognise that on a good day Marion can beat anyone. A year or two ago many would have found that statement laughable. I take your points on board Aaress and know they come from a good place.</p>
<p>Marion deserves support but is all too often met with venomous criticism and rejection. In part it goes with the territory of being French, and in part with the vicissitudes of being a professional tennis player.</p>
<p>There are many who profess to be fans yet become rather equivocal in their support when push comes to shove. With friends like these&#8230;..</p>
<p>Look at the way she held her shoulders in shame following the Stanford final. Yet Marion had NOTHING to feel ashamed about in my opinion. </p>
<p>As a fan, I may feel frustration FOR her, but not frustration BECAUSE OF her.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Aaress! I think the other plays brought up in the comments section are pretty valid, too. And what about Tamira Paszek? This girl was supposed to be the Next Big Thing 18 months ago, but she&#039;s struggled immensely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Aaress! I think the other plays brought up in the comments section are pretty valid, too. And what about Tamira Paszek? This girl was supposed to be the Next Big Thing 18 months ago, but she&#8217;s struggled immensely.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Broad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Broad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - I didn&#039;t realise that this site couldn&#039;t handle Unicode!</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Broad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Broad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the moment, the most frustrating players for me are Daniela Hantuchová, Nicole Vaidišová, Anna Chakvetadze and Lucie Šafá?ová. They&#039;re all members of my Eternal Fanship and immensely talented, but all in a horrible slump in recent months.

And then there&#039;s Jelena Doki?, who has been in a horrible slump since 2004. She won a couple of ITF tournaments this year, but still hasn&#039;t made it back as a regular on the WTA Tour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment, the most frustrating players for me are Daniela Hantuchová, Nicole Vaidišová, Anna Chakvetadze and Lucie Šafá?ová. They&#8217;re all members of my Eternal Fanship and immensely talented, but all in a horrible slump in recent months.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s Jelena Doki?, who has been in a horrible slump since 2004. She won a couple of ITF tournaments this year, but still hasn&#8217;t made it back as a regular on the WTA Tour.</p>
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		<title>By: JimM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaress :)

You forgot too include Lil Masha (Kirilenko) in your excellent piece. My baldness is not merely due too old age, more due to being a Makiri and Marion fan!  

PS I put links to On the Baseline on my Makiri and Anastasia sites. I hope thats ok

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaress :)</p>
<p>You forgot too include Lil Masha (Kirilenko) in your excellent piece. My baldness is not merely due too old age, more due to being a Makiri and Marion fan!  </p>
<p>PS I put links to On the Baseline on my Makiri and Anastasia sites. I hope thats ok</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: vlado</title>
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		<dc:creator>vlado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talking about the most frustrating players without mentioning Ana Ivanovic??? She can win GS and then she can lost to Julie Coin? Injury yeah right! No1 player in the world to lose to No2000 or something like that. She must be the most frustrating on the wta tour. And today against Venus, 5 great shots, 5 weak once and so on and on ... so frustrating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talking about the most frustrating players without mentioning Ana Ivanovic??? She can win GS and then she can lost to Julie Coin? Injury yeah right! No1 player in the world to lose to No2000 or something like that. She must be the most frustrating on the wta tour. And today against Venus, 5 great shots, 5 weak once and so on and on &#8230; so frustrating!</p>
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